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klimer's avatar

Very interesting.

I recently started trying Remote Ischemic Conditioning (RIC), based upon some posts by Curious Outlier.

In 2 weeks, I've lost .8% subcutaneous fat, while my percentage of muscle and water weight have increased.

Earlier this year I tracked waking body temperature daily for about 4 months. It started around in the low 60s, and I eventually got it consistently up to 97.0 F. I checked today for the first time in months, and it was 97.8 F.

So, I've got my fingers crossed that in 2 weeks RIC has unlocked my fat metabolism and restored my thyroid function.

What is RIC? The basic version, if you have decent blood pressure:

Slap a BP cuff on an arm or leg.

Crank it up to 200 mmHg, and keep an eye on it, pumping it up if it drops below that,

Do that for 5 minutes.

Deflate and wait five minutes.

Repeat for a total of five times.

My wife and I do it while watching Jeopardy!

In addition to the above benefits, my energy levels (I'm 69) are through the roof, and my cognition is greatly improved.

All with no change in diet or exercise.

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Angela's avatar

Is there an over the counter solution for T3 that is reliable? I see a lot of stuff from Forefront but don't know if I can trust them or not.

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Master Metabolism's avatar

Some people say they work but you don't know what you are getting, really.

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Karen's avatar

We need a class in HYPERthyroidism. I think we’re forgotten but the number of sufferers seems to be rising.

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Master Metabolism's avatar

I have had hyperthyroidism myself, so I understand the problem. I just don't think there are a lot of interesting options outside of the standard medical treatments to write about. Elaine Moores books are good. Graves Disease - Research News on Facebook is a page I used to follow, too.

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Stuart Hutt's avatar

Strange, no mention of iodine which is required to make T4 which is then converted to T3 through oxidation. There is also T1 and T2. Iodine, selenium and B vitamins are also required. Fluoride is a Neuro toxin that displaces iodine in T4 and makes a fake T4 with fluoride which the blood panel can't tell the difference and causes undiagnosed hypothyroidism. The thyroid panel is over 20 years out of date. If your hair is falling out, unusual weight gain/loss, not sweating, swelling of lymph nodes, etc, you may be deficient in iodine/iodide. Iodine is required for 1) every cell in the body as part of our immune defense, 2) to make thyroid hormones and 3) very important for cellular/gland secretion of thyroid, salivary glands, breasts/lymph nodes, ovaries, pancreas, skin, cerebral spinal/brain, lungs, prostate, ciliary of eye, bone marrow, etc. With deficiency, cysts/polyps/masses may develop. Dr Jerry Tennant book Healing is Voltage, The Handbook explains how our bodies work which is not taught in medical school.

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Master Metabolism's avatar

A lot of things aren’t mentioned.

Both hormones require iodine - they are iodotyrosines - tyrosine with iodine.

T1 and T2 are not thyroid hormones but precursors.

T1+T2= T3

T2+T2=T4

The conversion is done by deiodination.

The fake T4 with fluoride - fluorothyroxine - does not occur naturally as far as I know - very interested in this if there is any evidence of it.

Yes, the thyroid panels are a disgrace.

Iodine deficiency is rare and excess iodine can be very harmful for people with thyroid problems, so beware anyone telling you to use excessive doses, you are taking a big risk.

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Stuart Hutt's avatar

I suggest Dr Jerry Tennant book Healing is Voltage The Handbook which goes into great detail about the thyroid and fluoride issues. The thyroid makes about 80% T4 and 20% T3 through oxygenation of T4 to T3. Of course T4 is also converted to T3 with D1 throughout the body. Yes, you do not want to take large doses of Lugols Iodine (iodine+potassium iodide) if you are having thyroid problems. But to make T4 iodide is needed in the thyroid which we do not make. We have to get it through diet, which is almost impossible or through supplementing. Iodine/iodide is stored in different glands and is required for every cell. I take 50mg Lugols daily but started at a low dose. I plan to go up to 100mg daily. I read a research paper where T2D reduced/reversed their conditions at this dose. See what happens.

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Stuart Hutt's avatar

The thyroid converts T4 to T3, but iodine is required to make T4.

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Master Metabolism's avatar

Iodine is required for both, and the amount of T3 from the thyroid is pretty small compared to peripheral and intracellular conversion.

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